<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><!-- generator="wordpress/1.5.2" -->
<rss version="2.0" 
	xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/">
<channel>
	<title>Comments on: Initiation</title>
	<link>http://www.northernattack.com/archives/initiation/</link>
	<description>Musings about The Office and other tales from the watercooler.</description>
	<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 17:54:12 +0000</pubDate>
	<generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=1.5.2</generator>

	<item>
 		<title>Comment on Initiation by: Jarod</title>
		<link>http://www.northernattack.com/archives/initiation/#comment-3189</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Nov 2006 06:10:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.northernattack.com/archives/initiation/#comment-3189</guid>
					<description>Hey Everyone,

You can watch this and all of this seasons episodes online in case you missed it.  

http://theusoffice.blogspot.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Hey Everyone,</p>
	<p>You can watch this and all of this seasons episodes online in case you missed it.  </p>
	<p><a href='http://theusoffice.blogspot.com' rel='nofollow'>http://theusoffice.blogspot.com</a>
</p>
]]></content:encoded>
				</item>
	<item>
 		<title>Comment on Initiation by: Darryl M.</title>
		<link>http://www.northernattack.com/archives/initiation/#comment-3173</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Oct 2006 20:59:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.northernattack.com/archives/initiation/#comment-3173</guid>
					<description>I'd guess the phone call was at least a half an hour or more, even though it was only 3 minutes to us.  You can see the Jim's window behind him shows nighttime when the scene is cut to the 28 Days vs. 28 Days Later thing.  It was daylight when they started.  Plenty of time for Pam to officially fill in Jim about her new situation, and for Jim to not-so-subtly emphasize the fact that her name is still Beesly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I'd guess the phone call was at least a half an hour or more, even though it was only 3 minutes to us.  You can see the Jim's window behind him shows nighttime when the scene is cut to the 28 Days vs. 28 Days Later thing.  It was daylight when they started.  Plenty of time for Pam to officially fill in Jim about her new situation, and for Jim to not-so-subtly emphasize the fact that her name is still Beesly.
</p>
]]></content:encoded>
				</item>
	<item>
 		<title>Comment on Initiation by: Jay K. Cagatay</title>
		<link>http://www.northernattack.com/archives/initiation/#comment-3137</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Oct 2006 08:28:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.northernattack.com/archives/initiation/#comment-3137</guid>
					<description>dude LOL, I live in Australia and i CLEARLY knew the whole fraternity / sorority hazing joke. I mean, the fact that Ryan even said it himself made it pretty obvious. People who didn't see that don't know how to follow a narrative</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>dude LOL, I live in Australia and i CLEARLY knew the whole fraternity / sorority hazing joke. I mean, the fact that Ryan even said it himself made it pretty obvious. People who didn't see that don't know how to follow a narrative
</p>
]]></content:encoded>
				</item>
	<item>
 		<title>Comment on Initiation by: Ken</title>
		<link>http://www.northernattack.com/archives/initiation/#comment-3133</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Oct 2006 02:36:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.northernattack.com/archives/initiation/#comment-3133</guid>
					<description>I think you guys might have missed a couple things.  First of all, when Andy says &quot;whatever happened to those guys,&quot; I really doubt he's talking about The Cardigans.  He was singing (a little dramatically) which reminded him of Here Comes Treble.  (I always think of Here Comes Treble when I see Andy because I'm actually a Cornell student who's in an a cappella group.  For real.  I couldn't believe it when Andy introduced himself.)  If he were talking about The Cardigans, would he have said &quot;guys&quot;?

Second, the &quot;initiation&quot; ceremony that Dwight threw together was a dead-on spoof of a fraternity (or sorority) initiation ritual.  (Rather, how Dwight would imagine a fraternity initiation ritual to be after hearing little bits of conversation about it.)  Any fraternity brother who watched that episode would have been in tears, but I guess if you hadn't been through that or known people who had, it might have left you a little cold.  The overblown dramatic metaphors, the casket, the questions, it's all classic stuff you hear walking around campus.  Especially since Ryan mentioned fraternities in the first place, I'd be shocked if that weren't what that scene was about.

Speaking of Ryan... clearly the superstar.  What did Pam do to deserve it?  Chat on the phone?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I think you guys might have missed a couple things.  First of all, when Andy says "whatever happened to those guys," I really doubt he's talking about The Cardigans.  He was singing (a little dramatically) which reminded him of Here Comes Treble.  (I always think of Here Comes Treble when I see Andy because I'm actually a Cornell student who's in an a cappella group.  For real.  I couldn't believe it when Andy introduced himself.)  If he were talking about The Cardigans, would he have said "guys"?</p>
	<p>Second, the "initiation" ceremony that Dwight threw together was a dead-on spoof of a fraternity (or sorority) initiation ritual.  (Rather, how Dwight would imagine a fraternity initiation ritual to be after hearing little bits of conversation about it.)  Any fraternity brother who watched that episode would have been in tears, but I guess if you hadn't been through that or known people who had, it might have left you a little cold.  The overblown dramatic metaphors, the casket, the questions, it's all classic stuff you hear walking around campus.  Especially since Ryan mentioned fraternities in the first place, I'd be shocked if that weren't what that scene was about.</p>
	<p>Speaking of Ryan... clearly the superstar.  What did Pam do to deserve it?  Chat on the phone?
</p>
]]></content:encoded>
				</item>
	<item>
 		<title>Comment on Initiation by: Word.</title>
		<link>http://www.northernattack.com/archives/initiation/#comment-3097</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Oct 2006 04:31:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.northernattack.com/archives/initiation/#comment-3097</guid>
					<description>THE DHARMA INITIATIVE: (courtesy of http://entertainment.howstuffworks.com/dharma-initiative.htm :p) (also, i think it has something to do with lost, because it came with pictures) 

&quot;For such a secretive organization, the DHARMA Initiative has left lots of evidence of its activities. Not only has it populated an island with territorial polar bears and sharks, it has defended its territory with a menacing monster that looks deceptively like black smoke. 

Details about the group are a little sketchy. But it's pretty clear that members of the DHARMA Initiative -- or perhaps a group of its test subjects -- have made a habit of kidnapping and murder. This group, known as the Others, has threatened, intimidated and killed survivors of Oceanic Flight 815, which went down en route to Los Angeles, California from Sydney, Australia. For whatever reason, no one thought to ask the Others who they are or what they want. 


So, who are the Others, and what do they want? How are they related to the DHARMA Initiative? What do they have to do with the black smoke, the polar bears and the bunkers scattered around the island? In this article, you'll learn about the DHARMA Initiative, its history and what might be going on at its island research center.          

One-Eyed, One-Armed
Much of the available information about the DHARMA Initiative and Alvar Hanso comes from an orientation video. Doctor Marvin Candle narrates the video, and his lab coat and tie change during the film. The most logical explanation is that filming took place on more than one day. Something more sinister could be afoot. Dr. Candle's prosthetic left hand adds to people's suspicion. Some believe that Dr. Candle has a glass eye -- the same eye the survivors of Oceanic Flight 815 found in an abandoned bunker.  


DHARMA Initiative Basics
The DHARMA Initiative started as an ambitious science project in the 1970s. Its founders, Gerald and Karen DeGroot, aspired to create a large island research compound. They planned the construction of six underground and underwater research stations. 

The stipends of two PhD students, even if used wisely, couldn't possibly cover the cost of building and maintaining such a large facility. So the DeGroots turned to Alvar Hanso and the Hanso Foundation. Since the 1960s, the Foundation &quot;has offered grants to worthy experiments designed to further the evolution of the human race and provide technological solutions to the most pressing problems of our time.&quot; 


Hanso has funded research on: Hatori Hanzo,
or Han Solo?
Alvar Hanso is of no relation to famed sword maker Hatori Hanzo -- his name really bears more resemblance to Han Solo's. The HowStuffWorks staff prefers to believe this is a coincidence, not an indication that the DHARMA Initiative has anything to do with midi-chlorians.  

Life extension 
Electromagnetism 
Extra-terrestrial intelligence 
Mathematical forecasting 
Cryogenics 
Juxtapositional eugenics 
Psychic remote viewing 
Some of these experiments have been successful. In 2005, the Foundation celebrated the 105th birthday of an orangutan called Joop. Joop had been the subject of life-extension experiments. Orangutans typically live to be only 60 years old, so the Foundation declared the experiment a success. It did not disclose whether the orangutan acquired other skills, such as the ability to read or run a library. 
Not long after, though, the Global Health Organization (GHO) reported an outbreak of meningococcal disease in villages near the Foundation's Zanzibar research center. According to classified documents retrieved from the GHO, tests suggested that the disease originated in monkeys. The GHO theorized that it jumped the simian/human barrier and ordered the Foundation to terminate its operations. Although the GHO later reversed its decision, the event made Joop's longevity controversial. The Foundation's sizeable contribution to the GHO's defense fund also may have affected this reversal. It is still unclear whether Hanso Foundation experiments created or led to the spread of the disease. 
Hanso's donation to the GHO and his research funding came from money from weapon sales. During World War II, he provided munitions to various European resistance groups. After the war, he provided high-tech armaments to NATO. 

The DHARMA Initiative's distinctive name and logo seem to be at odds with funding from arms dealer. &quot;

thats only part of it, but i was really confused :p. i think suffice to say it has something to do with lost......^^</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>THE DHARMA INITIATIVE: (courtesy of <a href='http://entertainment.howstuffworks.com/dharma-initiative.htm' rel='nofollow'>http://entertainment.howstuffworks.com/dharma-initiative.htm</a> :p) (also, i think it has something to do with lost, because it came with pictures) </p>
	<p>"For such a secretive organization, the DHARMA Initiative has left lots of evidence of its activities. Not only has it populated an island with territorial polar bears and sharks, it has defended its territory with a menacing monster that looks deceptively like black smoke. </p>
	<p>Details about the group are a little sketchy. But it's pretty clear that members of the DHARMA Initiative -- or perhaps a group of its test subjects -- have made a habit of kidnapping and murder. This group, known as the Others, has threatened, intimidated and killed survivors of Oceanic Flight 815, which went down en route to Los Angeles, California from Sydney, Australia. For whatever reason, no one thought to ask the Others who they are or what they want. </p>
	<p>So, who are the Others, and what do they want? How are they related to the DHARMA Initiative? What do they have to do with the black smoke, the polar bears and the bunkers scattered around the island? In this article, you'll learn about the DHARMA Initiative, its history and what might be going on at its island research center.          </p>
	<p>One-Eyed, One-Armed<br />
Much of the available information about the DHARMA Initiative and Alvar Hanso comes from an orientation video. Doctor Marvin Candle narrates the video, and his lab coat and tie change during the film. The most logical explanation is that filming took place on more than one day. Something more sinister could be afoot. Dr. Candle's prosthetic left hand adds to people's suspicion. Some believe that Dr. Candle has a glass eye -- the same eye the survivors of Oceanic Flight 815 found in an abandoned bunker.  </p>
	<p>DHARMA Initiative Basics<br />
The DHARMA Initiative started as an ambitious science project in the 1970s. Its founders, Gerald and Karen DeGroot, aspired to create a large island research compound. They planned the construction of six underground and underwater research stations. </p>
	<p>The stipends of two PhD students, even if used wisely, couldn't possibly cover the cost of building and maintaining such a large facility. So the DeGroots turned to Alvar Hanso and the Hanso Foundation. Since the 1960s, the Foundation "has offered grants to worthy experiments designed to further the evolution of the human race and provide technological solutions to the most pressing problems of our time." </p>
	<p>Hanso has funded research on: Hatori Hanzo,<br />
or Han Solo?<br />
Alvar Hanso is of no relation to famed sword maker Hatori Hanzo -- his name really bears more resemblance to Han Solo's. The HowStuffWorks staff prefers to believe this is a coincidence, not an indication that the DHARMA Initiative has anything to do with midi-chlorians.  </p>
	<p>Life extension<br />
Electromagnetism<br />
Extra-terrestrial intelligence<br />
Mathematical forecasting<br />
Cryogenics<br />
Juxtapositional eugenics<br />
Psychic remote viewing<br />
Some of these experiments have been successful. In 2005, the Foundation celebrated the 105th birthday of an orangutan called Joop. Joop had been the subject of life-extension experiments. Orangutans typically live to be only 60 years old, so the Foundation declared the experiment a success. It did not disclose whether the orangutan acquired other skills, such as the ability to read or run a library.<br />
Not long after, though, the Global Health Organization (GHO) reported an outbreak of meningococcal disease in villages near the Foundation's Zanzibar research center. According to classified documents retrieved from the GHO, tests suggested that the disease originated in monkeys. The GHO theorized that it jumped the simian/human barrier and ordered the Foundation to terminate its operations. Although the GHO later reversed its decision, the event made Joop's longevity controversial. The Foundation's sizeable contribution to the GHO's defense fund also may have affected this reversal. It is still unclear whether Hanso Foundation experiments created or led to the spread of the disease.<br />
Hanso's donation to the GHO and his research funding came from money from weapon sales. During World War II, he provided munitions to various European resistance groups. After the war, he provided high-tech armaments to NATO. </p>
	<p>The DHARMA Initiative's distinctive name and logo seem to be at odds with funding from arms dealer. "</p>
	<p>thats only part of it, but i was really confused :p. i think suffice to say it has something to do with lost......<sup></sup>
</p>
]]></content:encoded>
				</item>
	<item>
 		<title>Comment on Initiation by: Jay K. Cagatay</title>
		<link>http://www.northernattack.com/archives/initiation/#comment-3089</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Oct 2006 11:30:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.northernattack.com/archives/initiation/#comment-3089</guid>
					<description>I JUST NOTICED SOMETHING!

When the voiceover comes on to announce the free pretzels, its the voice of the guy in the wheelchair from Season 2! 
I vaguely remember him saying he was in charge of the business park or something like that..
Now that is attention to detail.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I JUST NOTICED SOMETHING!</p>
	<p>When the voiceover comes on to announce the free pretzels, its the voice of the guy in the wheelchair from Season 2!<br />
I vaguely remember him saying he was in charge of the business park or something like that..<br />
Now that is attention to detail.
</p>
]]></content:encoded>
				</item>
	<item>
 		<title>Comment on Initiation by: Kat</title>
		<link>http://www.northernattack.com/archives/initiation/#comment-3088</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Oct 2006 03:08:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.northernattack.com/archives/initiation/#comment-3088</guid>
					<description>I have to say, I agree with the majority of people who've said that Pam needs time to figure things out on her own. Would she really be a character we could all love if she jumped from one man to the next with no thought to herself at all? She's been with Roy for ten years and she deserves a break, to figure out who she is. 

Yeah, the show has lost the Jim/Pam component that made it so amazing in the past two seasons. But have patience. The writers know what they're doing. Or at least I hope they do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I have to say, I agree with the majority of people who've said that Pam needs time to figure things out on her own. Would she really be a character we could all love if she jumped from one man to the next with no thought to herself at all? She's been with Roy for ten years and she deserves a break, to figure out who she is. </p>
	<p>Yeah, the show has lost the Jim/Pam component that made it so amazing in the past two seasons. But have patience. The writers know what they're doing. Or at least I hope they do.
</p>
]]></content:encoded>
				</item>
	<item>
 		<title>Comment on Initiation by: Drew</title>
		<link>http://www.northernattack.com/archives/initiation/#comment-3087</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Oct 2006 21:10:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.northernattack.com/archives/initiation/#comment-3087</guid>
					<description>&quot;One of these days, Michael will realize that Pam is the most loyal employee that he's ever had.&quot;

Maybe, but come on, she wrote down &quot;Cosby Impression&quot; for his hourly status when he was clearly making a sales call.  Maybe a goofy, overly-familiar sales call, of course, but it ended up working...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>"One of these days, Michael will realize that Pam is the most loyal employee that he's ever had."</p>
	<p>Maybe, but come on, she wrote down "Cosby Impression" for his hourly status when he was clearly making a sales call.  Maybe a goofy, overly-familiar sales call, of course, but it ended up working...
</p>
]]></content:encoded>
				</item>
	<item>
 		<title>Comment on Initiation by: Emily</title>
		<link>http://www.northernattack.com/archives/initiation/#comment-3086</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Oct 2006 19:30:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.northernattack.com/archives/initiation/#comment-3086</guid>
					<description>James, I just want to say that I look forward to these recaps as much as the real show! You ALWAYS have some great insight or point out some little, significant detail that I missed. Not exactly a cure for my &quot;Office&quot; obsession, but I wouldn't have it any other way!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>James, I just want to say that I look forward to these recaps as much as the real show! You ALWAYS have some great insight or point out some little, significant detail that I missed. Not exactly a cure for my "Office" obsession, but I wouldn't have it any other way!
</p>
]]></content:encoded>
				</item>
	<item>
 		<title>Comment on Initiation by: icecreamsandwiches!!!</title>
		<link>http://www.northernattack.com/archives/initiation/#comment-3085</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Oct 2006 18:04:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.northernattack.com/archives/initiation/#comment-3085</guid>
					<description>yeah, good episode I think.
My take on the whole &quot;Beesly&quot; thing is that they've reverted back to friendship, she used to call him Halpert a lot. Although the romantic side of me wants him to enjoy calling her &quot;Beesly&quot; over and over because he can...she still has her last name...she's not married.
What i want to know is how did Jim find out about her not getting married?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>yeah, good episode I think.<br />
My take on the whole "Beesly" thing is that they've reverted back to friendship, she used to call him Halpert a lot. Although the romantic side of me wants him to enjoy calling her "Beesly" over and over because he can...she still has her last name...she's not married.<br />
What i want to know is how did Jim find out about her not getting married?
</p>
]]></content:encoded>
				</item>
</channel>
</rss>
